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Astolfo-kun • 1 year ago

Love this already, Elen's reaction was totally justified seeing how he's suddenly completely different; personality, new powers, and he even has no shadow. Wouldn't be unreasonable to think he's a monster that replaced the original Falma

Swiggy • 1 year ago

TBF, he has replaced the original Falma. While some of Flama's memories have been left behind, far from being all of them.

The story is just starting, but it does get more interesting as we move forward. As the blurb about this describes, at this point, health care is reserved for the nobles. He basically becomes the Bernie Sanders for anime health care.

Halcion Smith • 1 year ago

If resources were unlimited, I'd be a Bernie supporter.

Mai Usako • 1 year ago

If there are more demand for resources there will be made more resources. That is how simple it works, It works in the UK, it works in Canada etc. etc. why wouldn't it in the US?

Düölingöhhh Snorlax • 1 year ago

As far as I understand, it's capitalism favoring corporate above all else. Your entire life value depends on your ability to slave yourself for corporations.

Captain trips • 1 year ago

Wrong.

Düölingöhhh Snorlax • 1 year ago

So true. Thanks for the enlightenment.

MisterKazu-ma • 1 year ago

You call waiting months working, there's a reason people go to the us for healthcare, and that is because it doesn't work.

Josh G • 1 year ago

Waiting a few months is better than going into debt for the rest of your life.

MisterKazu-ma • 1 year ago

'cept you don't go into debt most of the time

Mai Usako • 1 year ago

Lmao, Months are nothing and if it is life-threatening there is no waitlist.

MisterKazu-ma • 1 year ago

months are something, you just rush through time as humans pretty much live very less than 100 years

Mai Usako • 1 year ago

If it isn't life-threatening even old people can wait. Besides look it from the other way, world is overpopulated because humans getting too old.

MisterKazu-ma • 1 year ago

the world isn't overpopulated, that's just bs spread by idiots who don't know it is a distribution problem not a population problem

Mai Usako • 1 year ago

Congratulations, you won the stupid award.
I don't think you actually know what world overpopulation means and you actually take it literal. Overpopulation has to do with environment and resources. And City overpopulation could be fixed if people were allowed to move to a country without needing specific impossible things for a visa. World Population could be fixed by advancing 3rd world countries to produce and make resources.

MisterKazu-ma • 1 year ago

that's overcrowding, there is a difference.

Mai Usako • 1 year ago

No, that is not overcrowding, It is overpopulation. Let's be real here, you've proven now on two occasions you aren't educated about this subject.
Overcrowding is when there are too many people in an area.
Overpopulation is when there are too many people to sustain.

MisterKazu-ma • 1 year ago

those humans are easily sustainable, you're the one showing you aren't educated for shit

Mai Usako • 1 year ago

Your conversation is getting more and more stupid.
"Those humans" which humans? You can't just say those humans.

You've shown that you're uneducated about this subject on two occasions. 1.) You didn't know what overpopulation was and didn't know how distribution works. 2) Saying that it is overcrowding even though I've never mentioned anything about overcrowding, but did mention structures of overpopulation.

MisterKazu-ma • 1 year ago

hmm I mean the humans the inhabit the celestial body known on earth, the earth can handle a couple billion more humans at the least, you're pretending to be educated and twisting the fact humans crowd up in small areas that can not sustain them. You say overpopulated because they're idiots who go into unsustainable places too. The fact of the matter is most humans would have a better life if they didn't bundle up in large amounts. So we're probably going by different definitions of overpopulation here

Mai Usako • 1 year ago

Am gonna ignore first sentence, to keep you serious. Even if we spread out more, it wouldn't change much world-wide, just city-wise. Like I've said earlier we aren't producing/making enough resources to sustain us. Doesn't has to do if we do or do not have enough on the world, already given a solution for it. But we could even go deeper in it and involve other animals besides humans.

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Mai Usako • 1 year ago

Please, you haven't even finished middle school yet.
You haven't made a single proper argument, you are the one who shows that knows nothing. Currently 1/10th of the world population doesn't have enough food, 97.5% of the water on our planet is can't be consumed by humans. You know nothing about this subject which you've proven time and time again. You're really, really, really dumb and I can't help you with that. tldr, go kill yourself, make the world a better place.

MisterKazu-ma • 1 year ago

You haven't made a single proper argument, I pointed out desalination and the fact there is plenty of food and that it is hidden behind a paywall. I'm sure I'm older than you're probably middle school self with that tldr, way older. You think you're right you result to that shit, go get a better education and learn how food is more economic and technology that can make the "nonconsumable" water consumable. Also get blocked you immature fuck

Maeve • 1 year ago

I mean I've to agree with them, you really don't have made a single logical argument regarding this debate, while what they are saying are simply facts you can fact check.

You're immature and it doesn't surprise me you're uneducated about this subject. I mean, you try to prove that you're "older" than someone else, you are probably still in diapers. It doesn't help that your profile picture is from an anime only uneducated 12-year-olds enjoy. It also doesn't help that your grammar is whack.

You're incapable of elaborating what you're saying, and what you're saying makes maybe on paper sense (theoretical) but in reality (practice) it simply isn't possible.

Economics has NOTHING to do with this debate, technology is something they have mentioned but you are too stubborn to acknowledge their points, but honestly, I think you're too young to read properly.

Even with desalination, most water isn't consumable and simply takes too much effort to make it consumable if it didn't take too much effort most countries this summer wouldn't need to worry about a drought.

A paywall has nothing to do with overpopulation, even without the paywall we're still short on resources, it has to do with a lot of reasons, We can't make unlimited food, since creating food damages our planet, we can't have unlimited water since we currently don't have the manpower or technology to do so.

But you will never know since you aren't educated about it and you are most likely not interested in being educated about it. But you can have your beliefs, just like some people believe our earth is flat. Who the fuck cares? I do somewhat agree with their "TL;DR" because Jesus Christ you're toxic and most likely never experienced love in your whole life.

TL;DR, touch some grass.

MisterKazu-ma • 1 year ago

Ah yes another fucktard also getting blocked, if it takes too much effort improve your technology and not sit there sucking your thumb. Going on your opinion on konosuba I'll say you are in that edgy 15 yr old phase too. If I couldn't read properly I wouldn't be responding dumbass. Also literally enough food, infact there is 1.5x enough we just sell it at too high of a price for the hungry can afford. You just have weird sources as the biggest correlation is poverty.

Maeve • 1 year ago

I am sorry that I've hurt your feelings, I understand that it isn't "cool" for someone who is in their late 20's to basically bully someone who is in their early teens. Like you aren't educated properly yet, you can't help it that you believe in everything. Besides you can take this with a grain of salt, I don't care, it is about considering every outcome.

You see, I said you can't read properly, which you really can not do. You make assumptions, you live in your own bubble and puts words in other people's mouth. You can still respond when you can't read properly.

We've enough food currently for 10 billion people, but we've got a poor distribution system but that is not the point. Farmers have to decrease their farms by a lot for the environment and Climate change is also simply changing against our favour. In 2050 there are expected to be 2 billion people who are hungry which are 829 million people currently.

As someone who lives in one of the most technologically evolved countries in the world, we have a drought problem in this country, while our country is the best at working with water in the whole world.

Besides, I don't really like sucking my thumb, I prefer a pacifier.

Swiggy • 1 year ago

What procedures need months of waiting to be done? tummy tuck? Face lift.

People come to the US to get elective surgery done. If they come here for life threatening illness, it's because there isn't anyone in their home country that can perform the procedure.

Meanwhile, here in the US, forget about it if you don't have insurance. It took me from April of 2007 to July of 2008 to finally get help here in the US because I had a damaged heart.

I probably could have had it done faster in Canada, but I wasn't a Canadian Citizen. They did the best triage they could and the cost of the ER was ~$800 USD.

stealthy one • 1 year ago

The US produces more than 80% of all the world's: medical patents, research papers, new medicines, new medical devices and new medical tools. Each year the US doesn't just beat every other country in all these areas -- they beat the entire rest of the world combined, and doubled.

All the rest of you have cheap shit because Americans are paying for the research, then license it to companies near you to save lives. With that smug attitude you are just a parasite. You're also lying about waiting lists for critical procedures. Canada and EU waiting lists for cancer are one of the top reasons people come to US for treatment

Walter Lee • 1 year ago

India has medical drug laws the prevent price gouging and supports affordable drugs.. It is true that US medicines are licensed in India in generic form and are sold at a much lower price in India. For example, the same high blood pressure medicine might be 3.20 dollars a pill in the USA, 2.20 dollars a pill in Canada and cost only 10 cents per pill in India. Not all drugs are available universally and not all drugs are effective. Surgery is often less expensive and more affordable in India or the Philippines than in the USA. During the Obama Administration, the ability to imports drugs were severely restricted

stealthy one • 1 year ago

lol yea it is really cheap everywhere but the US that's what I just said. parasitic.

Walter Lee • 1 year ago

BTW: most medical research papers are now pre printed/published before peer review .. it not the number but the quality of the research that matters for research papers. Most medical research in the the USA is connected and funded by big pharma and involve new drugs or new uses for old drugs... translational research which has a drug that is on a pathway to be sold. When doing more basic medical research not involving drug development ... research is spread out among different countries more evenly across the world. ..For example, most of the research on using intermittent fasting as a medical treatment is not in the USA but in Australia and Europe... Many medical studies might be administered/coordinated in the USA but the actual clinical trial / cohort study might be international/world wide. For example, the new TRIIM-X clinical trials are coordinated in the USA but actual subjects could be positioned anywhere in the world.

stealthy one • 1 year ago

No both quality and quantity matter -- but indeed the US far far exceeds any other country in citations as well, by roughly the same ratios.

Anyone who doesn't admit to themselves that the entire world is piggy-backing off of America's capitalist medical market either does not know enough about the subject to comment, as in peak dunning-kruger, or they are intentionally lying because the facts are politically inconvenient

understanding America's role is a litmus test. anyone who doesn't get the above should not be ashamed or anything, but you shouldn't trust the opinions you've formed until you do understand the current state of the field as an actual researcher would

that doesn't even get into the reality that historically most totalitarian regimes indeed had socialized healthcare and how dangerous it is to hand over society's health to government thugs. there is no need for some grand overseeing entity or hero worshipping government officials who barely managed to get medical degrees, couldn't get a job at actual hospitals and are highly susceptible to bribery

Swiggy • 1 year ago

I dunno, man. Here in the US, we rank #46 in the world in Life expectancy: 79.11 (male & Female) while Canada ranks #16 with a life expectancy of 82.96. Kinda telling, isn't it. Maybe it has something to do with the universal health care, so that people see a doctor on a regular basis.

Let's look at infant mortality: The US comes in on the list at #50 with 5.4 infant deaths per 1,000 while Canada comes in at #41 with 4.38 infant deaths per 1,000.

BTW, as you mention, the Americans are paying for the research. Exactly! Not American corporations, but American tax payers. Take the Epipen that is used to to prevent death from anaphylaxis due to bee stings using epinephrine. At one point, it was selling for $700 for 2 single dose pens. Of course, you realize that the company that makes them didn't do the actual research, but rather, the research came from the US Government back in the 1970s.

No, had we had Universal health care back when developed countries were adopting it, Americans likely would be in better shape. Growing up, our health care plan was "Don't get sick."

No, where Canadian Health care is ahead of us is that it's at least trying to take care of the problems at the source. At least they have the numbers that show that their system works better, even if they aren't the absolute best.

stealthy one • 1 year ago

There is no country in the entire world which socialized healthcare and then saw a reduction in cost and increase in quality.

In all things you have speed, cost and quality. You can pick two of these things but you can't have all of them. To have quality healthcare and not have insane waiting lists as in UK and Canada, you have to pay to incentivize the market.

Swiggy • 1 year ago

My only experience with health care outside the US was when I was diagnosed with COPD in Canada. I woke up in the ER, and, had I had US health insurance, they would have kept me for further treatment. Fast service, quality care, AND low cost. Including the ambulance ride, it was under $1000.

Right now, I just upgraded my health care plan. Medicare, Medicaid, and Anthem Mediblue dual advantage. No, I'm not some rich geezer. Far from that. But I want the exact same coverage I have for all Americans. No co-pays, reduced prescriptions, and so forth. Did I mention no co-pays? Yeah, $25 for a doctor visit and $40 for a specialist might not sound like a lot, but it was when I first became disabled. Add on the Rx costs every month... like my potassium pills which have been around since before I was born, were costing me, discounted, almost $20 a month when I first started taking them. I'm currently paying >$10, and, after August 1, that price will drop more with my new plan.

Medical debt in the US is the leading cause of most bankruptcies in the US: 61%.

Businesses today complain they can't get good workers, but cheap out on medical insurance. People with decent health insurance won't skip to another job just to make sure they have it.

Nope, you've swallowed the propaganda of the insurance companies. Sorry for your ignorance.

stealthy one • 1 year ago

"your only experience .."
".. proceeds to base entire philosophy on personal anecdote"

no insurance companies are the greatest scam on both sides of this equation. they milk the governments in socialized healthcare countries and the consumers in America. nothing in Canada's healthcare system is cheap or free. they have over 50% income tax lmao. the quality is OK but quality don't come cheap. and yes waiting lists are extremely long for specialists. especially heart and cancer specialists or anything in later life.

this is inevitable. doctors are not slaves. there is a limited supply of medical workers and you have to incentivize people to suffer that lifestyle. in all situations -- whether the insurance companies work with hospital chargemasters, whether government purchases insurance for everyone or whether the government becomes "single payer" insurance itself -- either way the insurance becomes the source of corruption and takes money from people without applying it to the medical staff, equipment and treatment

but that said, once again, yes in places like Canada you can get treated for certain things quickly, but not others. like the entire rest of the world aside from America, you produce copies of our drugs for 5% the cost - as your governments have banned the research costs from being considered in their market. Thus completely parasitic on the American people, therefor they aught be thankful rather than smug. Their taxes would be 90% if not for us.

Social healthcare systems produce practically zero innovation. There is absolutely no incentive for them to innovate, and there is no funding for them to use if they wanted to. This is why 90%+ of the world is sponging off the US market.

stealthy one • 1 year ago

resources are not made, they are produced. they have to originate from raw materials which cost labor to extract, refine and render into base components.

to get more resources costs more money to pay people for harvesting them, preparing them and bringing them to you. resources are clustered and very unevenly distributed in the universe. worth, value and cost depend on which resource clusters are close to you and which are close to others

this is why market economies can function on supply and demand whereas command economies fail due to central planning violating the CAP theorem

Mai Usako • 1 year ago

Ah yes, Uses different word of same meaning to sound more intelligent. But we talking about different resources.

stealthy one • 1 year ago

lol no the CAP theorem applies to natural resources, digital resources, currency any definition of resource. but nice try throwing shade with no basis. i could care less if i sound like a retard or not because i'm correct

Mai Usako • 1 year ago

But I didn't talk about CAP Theorem, did I? besides I doubt you actually know how it works. To make the CAP Theorem work you do need a degree in all three aspects Consistency, Availability, and Partition Tolerance. Besides the CAP Theorem has never been a hundred per cent reliable. Besides, besides, it is theoretical belief.

stealthy one • 1 year ago

1. No the CAP theorem is 100% is a theorem, not a theory. It doesn't even make sense to talk about it being "reliable". A theorem proves certain logic to be true. The CAP theorem does that. Don't talk out of your butt just because someone proved you wrong.

2. Right I talked about the CAP theorem because it disproves your assertions about resource

3. While the CAP theorem focuses most heavily on digital resources, it applies to any system with any lag time for delivery. Unless you are going to teleport resources from place to place instead of shipping them by truck, freight, ships and planes -- then the CAP theorem applies.

Central planning has the same shortcomings as central computing. It is mathematically inevitable that any central planning system will fail to keep resources available due to being unable to maintain consistency across partitions. This conclusion is not a theory either. All such economies have crashed within decades compared to decentralized economies which can last centuries.

In other words you can't just "make more resource".
- It takes time to get the resources
- Time to push resources through supply
- Time to turn resource into products
- Time to pool products together
- Time to distribute products to the end user

each step being physically separated and requiring both lag time and bandwidth be maintained in proportion to needs. but needs are fluctuating, and those fluctuations become interruptions and breakdowns at one or more level

Consistency: resources will not always be distributed as scheduled
Availability: not everyone who needs the resource will be able to find the resource
Partition: Centralization of control and storage of resources cannot be maintained for longer than you can buffer the other 2 faults. Even if locally distributed the local partitions will fault due to central control.

This is why Command Economies fail and Market Economies thrive. This is why socialism always leads to corrupt governments and creating a class of rich rulers and poor voters, despite promising the opposite. It is mathematically inevitable.

Mai Usako • 1 year ago

You giving a whole essay but once again "The CAP theorem is a belief from theoretical computer science"

stealthy one • 1 year ago

The CAP theorem is mathematically true. It is fine not to know that but knowing just enough to be on the peak of mount stupid doesn't make your wannabe retort valid

Mai Usako • 1 year ago

But you can literarily look it up. Like, everyone that knows how to google know now that you're a stupid fuck. CAP Theorem never been proven right or wrong. At some point it is going to be proven wrong.

I never actually read further but "This is why socialism always leads to corrupt governments and creating a class of rich rulers and poor voters, despite promising the opposite." There never been real socialism so, how do you know something happened that never happened? You're full of bullshit my dude. Which is why I can't take you seriously.

stealthy one • 1 year ago

The CAP theorem has been proven. You're only demonstrating the "peak of mount stupid" effect, where you spend 5 minutes learning about something and try to compare your shallow notions against a software engineer.

In fact the very "gotcha" you think you're getting me with, that the CAP theorem can potentially be overcome, for future people searching as you mention, has exactly the information they need to see the fallacies of your position and bad faith arguments.

The questionability of the CAP theorem has nothing to do with its mathematical soundness. Rather it has been observed that a system can circumvent the pitfalls. To do so requires decentralization -- which is diametrically opposed to the Central Planning of Command Economies like socialism and communism.

Mai Usako • 1 year ago

Besides the fact that it is not and will never be. I am a back-end developer, you being a software engineer doesn't validate your point since I am as well.

Just like about socialism, talking about corrupt governments because of socialism, but here is the thing. True Socialism never ever happened, but you pretend like it happened and you pretend like only bad things happened from something that never happened.

You don't have a broad view, you are unable to see the whole picture, you can only see black and white but nothing in-between.

Ken kaneki • 1 year ago

But still Elen didn't look the type who get scared and actually say it in the face. I thought she's be scared but also don't want to hurt his feelings and act normally kind.

Nizumi HD • 1 year ago

Imagine a demon/something beyond your undertanding taking over your friend, it's probably what Elan was feeling.

zDraxi • 1 year ago

She doesn't know who or what substituted Falma. She also doesn't know if it did something to Falma. A demon could have killed and substituted Falma.